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Salt Lake City,UT,United States

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Sep 14, 2008

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Male

Goal Type:

Local Elite

Running Accomplishments:

52 marathons, Overall winner 15 times, PR 2:20:25 at St. George 2013, Kona Ironman 2002, Zero DNF

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Rowing Machine Lifetime Miles: 335.05
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Salomon SpeedCross III Lifetime Miles: 263.03
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Nike LunaRacer +3 Lifetime Miles: 129.20
Nike LunarLaunch Lifetime Miles: 319.30
Nike Pegasus 31 Light Blue Lifetime Miles: 640.75
Altra Lone Peak 2.5 Lifetime Miles: 99.50
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New Balance 890v4 Lifetime Miles: 41.25
Nike Pegasus 33 Lifetime Miles: 12.00
Race: Ogden Marathon (26.219 Miles) 02:33:23, Place overall: 3, Place in age division: 1
Easy MilesMarathon Pace MilesThreshold MilesVO2 Max MilesCrosstraining milesTotal Miles
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This was my 10th Ogden Marathon and 50th Marathon overall. The mixed feelings and emotions I have for this race are making it even more difficult to into words how I feel. I was hoping to somewhat redeem myself from my lousy run at Boston but it didn’t happen. Mentally and physically it was a struggle from the start. After only three miles I had to concede to not pushing the pace and going with the leaders because I knew if I did I would crumble early. I really didn't want to suffer again like I did at Boston. For the first six miles I checked my splits and with each one I was more and more convinced that I am not the same runner I was even a year ago when I ran a 2:23. Since I was the only runner wearing mittens and a baselayer I think the weather can only explain 2 to 3 minutes of it. So how do I explain the rest?  Maybe my lack of injuries this year, higher miles, and less time cross training is actually adversely affecting my running. Seems counterintuitive but not completely out of the question. Should I just go back to 50 – 60 miles a week and cross train more? There has to be more to the equation that I hope to understand and address. If after some time, rest, and introspection this becomes the new norm, so be it. I still enjoy the challenge of running as fast as I can for 26.2 miles.

In terms of the race, Anthony made it clear at about mile three that he was going for it and only an African runner dared to follow. I wish I could have responsded. Only after the race did I find out that the African runner dropped at around mile 10 because Anthony threw in a few 5:1x miles that apparently burned him out. At about mile seven Riley breezed by me and Josh, who had been trailing me closely, latched on. I never thought I would see either of them again. At around mile 11 I passed a younger runner who had gone out too fast. From there up until mile 17 I ran in no man’s land. At that point I saw Riley in the distance and figured he must have an injury or nutrition problems because I was gaining on him quickly. At mile 21 I finally passed him, as he graciously gave me a high five. At the time I thought he might be injured but fortunately it was only nutrition problems. It took a lot of guts and pride for him to finish the race. When I passed Riley some spectators said I was now in third place which obviously meant that someone had dropped out in the front of me. Knowing that I was now in third provided some much needed motivation for the final miles along the bike path in the city. Those miles were actually some of the most enjoyable miles of the race. I actually look forward to weaving through the half marathoners on the path, as it provides a much needed distraction from the suffering. When I finished I was still just as exhausted as usual and I knew I couldn’t have gone faster.

Despite the weather the fans, organizers, and volunteers were great as usual. There is a reason why I have fun 1/5 of my marathons at Ogden. I look forward to running many more.

Nike LunaRacer +3 Miles: 26.20
Comments
From RileyCook on Sun, May 17, 2015 at 21:41:18 from 73.52.134.194

First of all congrats on the top three finish. I know you've had a rough go of it so far this year. It's so hard to pinpoint what could be the problem, and I'm sure you've thought about it a lot.

I hope you find the solution soon. I don't think you're washed up by any means. Maybe get some bloodwork done, check that.

It was good seeing you up there and hopefully next time, we'll both have better results!

From Jason D on Sun, May 17, 2015 at 22:14:29 from 68.80.27.222

Sorry it didn't go better for you, Fritz. Sounds like your streak of weather has been less than ideal the last few weeks. Best of luck with your next steps.

From RustyTF2 on Sun, May 17, 2015 at 22:26:21 from 184.155.151.33

No way you're done! I second Riley's suggestion to maybe get some blood work done. I also think that if you feel tired and slower on your workouts, that backing off some on the mileage could be all you need! You're way more experienced than I and I'm sure you'll figure it out soon. Keep your head up and congrats on still running an impressive race!

From SpencerSimpson on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 07:50:49 from 73.3.100.120

Fritz. Always fun to see you run brother. You make running fun. So don't throw in the towel. I second Riley's thoughts. Not a doctor but your energy seems off. You still have a lot of miles and races though. It was pretty cool to see you still podium under the conditions. Everyone had a pretty rough day even if they ran well. Hope you enjoy the recovery and see you soon. MIH

From Hille on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 08:49:51 from 67.128.146.100

As always, an impressive race given the conditions and everything else. You still have a ton of good races in you.

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:23:59 from 192.168.1.1

Fritz:

This is actually an improvement. So I would take this race is a positive light.

Also, as Riley pointed out, this could be a health issue and a basic blood test is a good first step to diagnosing it. Two suspects are iron and testosterone.

Regardless, do what you can to up the sleep and improve the nutrition.

From JPark on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:32:06 from 76.8.212.219

Fritz, don't over analyze things; in the grand scheme of things, these past two outings are just aberrations. You'll be back to your dominating ways soon enough. I'm in no position to give you advice, but I wonder if one of the things playing into this is the new job. Not to say that its better or worse than your situation at Overstock, but just that its an adjustment and a change from what you were doing for so many years. It could be more stress, or the opposite--coming down from a highly stressful situation. I'm willing to bet you're investing more energy into the new endeavor than you realize.

From james (runmehappy) on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 09:43:37 from 50.203.76.218

Still an impressive run in less than ideal conditions. You have said it before, you would rather race in 80s than in the 30s. Both Boston and Ogden were cold and wet. Congrats on your 50th marathon too! That is huge. Is DesNews the next race?

From Sasha Pachev on Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:03:13 from 69.160.80.237

Oh, I did not realize Fritz changed jobs. That is a big factor and perhaps explains everything. You cannot up the mileage without near perfect recovery. If some external stress is driving the schedule, only the most resilient runners survive - the kind that would survive 20 years in the labor-intensive part of Gulag. An elite runner with the average (for elite) nervous system or below will not benefit from more than 70 miles a week under the currently typical caffeine-driven office routine. So maybe time for a new job...

From Fritz on Tue, May 19, 2015 at 03:08:03 from 72.250.223.132

Thanks guys. You can be sure I am not throwing in the towel. A couple of steps back can be overcome and I think Justin and Sasha's assessments of the new job, routine, etc. probably explain a lot of it. For those who don't know me well I am about as routine as they get so the fact that I switched jobs and traveled for the 5 weeks leading up to Boston, all while trying to maintain higher miles, must have taken it's toll.

@james- marathon schedule is TBD at the moment but in the near term I will probably mix in the steeplechase and ragnar

From allie on Wed, May 20, 2015 at 18:51:39 from 24.99.46.55

i'm also about as routine as they come, and The Great Disruption of 2014 destroyed my ability to race (even though my training was fine and i wasn't feeling overly stressed -- it was there). so i agree with everything said above. you'll get back to your old self.

good job on the race. top three, and you finished knowing you couldn't have gone faster. also, zero DNF is still alive after 50, and that's pretty sweet.

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